I shoot a Sako Finnlight 85 in 7mm mag and it loves the Hornady SST 154gr at the range, but I haven't been impressed with the results in the field. But it really liked plain old 130gr partitions. I shot one deer with 308 and 165 sst and had not blood trail at all, deer went about 20 yds into some plantation and briars. I think from what I read that the GMX is more for thick skinned heavy boned animals where the bullet absolutely has to stay together. BXS, Hornady Outfitter 120-gr. ELD-X G1 BC (0.486). Hornadys ELD-X bullet features a long, javelin-like body, a boattail base and the new Heat Shield Tip to improve long-range performance. I have shot 2 of them with SST in my 270. exit wounds on both. The Hornady ELD-X bullet is advertised as a technologically advanced, match accurate, all range hunting bullet. "By the metrics of environmentalism, poverty vastly outperforms wealth." That scope/rifle combo had already produced sub-MOA groups with match ammo so I had a baseline of performance, and with Hornady's Precision Hunter the Bergara produced three-shot groups ranging from .71 to .79 inches at 100 yards. The Hornady ELD-X bullet is advertised as a technologically advanced, match accurate, all range hunting bullet. Joined: Jan 27, 2011 … ELD-X vs SST wont help you if all the rifle gives with them are 2' groups at 300 yards. Spiker. I've always been impressed with the 30 cal accubond, but the 7mm08, 280 s and 7 mags with accubonds were not above and beyond vs 162 sst, amax or eldx … I had them cooking off between 3000 and 3100 and they would blow all to hell at close range on hogs and a deer or 2. The Winchester Power Point, Sierra Pro-Hunter and Speer Hot-Cor are classic soft point bullets. I have used SSTs out to 380 yds on whitetail with excellent results. Hornady ELD-X, 212-grain. Bottom line again, if the SST's have worked olak then any of Hornady's interlock type bullets or any of Sierra's Gameking or Prohunter bullets will work the same IMHO. On the other hand partions work better on elk than sst! RL22 is not very temp stable. The SST's are less expensive and easier to obtain. I've always been impressed with the 30 cal accubond, but the 7mm08, 280 s and 7 mags with accubonds were not above and beyond vs 162 sst, amax or eldx in my … Cabelas has them on sale for quite a discount on both versions and am thinking of picking up a few hundred. This Idaho black bear was taken at about 400 yards with a 19-inch barreled scout rifle. On my AR in 6.5 Grendel I am running the 129 grain SST's with excellent results as well. For example, comparing ELD-X to SST: SST tips melt at high velocity (air friction). It's what I had. I’ve been shooting Hornady bullets for as long as I’ve been hunting. Used both in 243 and 308. Hornady Critical Duty 9MM 135 GR FlexLock 25 RDS. 270WSM 130g sst vs the 145 eldx ? I use SST's for whitetail deer but I wouldn't use GMX for them. It … the first was right at 100 yards. No problems. The length of the ELD-X is 1.44 but I can't seem to find the bullet length for the 140/147s and was hoping the length wasn't what was going to limit this bullet; for reference the original 140 … For me, the.30 cal 178gr ELD-X / 180gr SST comparison is all about the thicker jacket and shank, and the higher position of the interlock on the ELD-X, which has translated to an improved … ELD-X vs SST vs ELD-M vs A-Max. Thus far I have heard of ELD-X, which sounds ideal for hunting, but per Hornady's website, it's not in any factory ammo. In short, comparing all 3 bullets, think these are the real key differences: 1. Introduced in 1998 in response to the popularity of the Nosler Ballistic Tip, it is a very low drag bullet with a high ballistic coefficient (BC). Silver $$ Contributor. The Winchester Power Point, Sierra Pro-Hunter and Speer Hot-Cor are classic soft point bullets. it wasn't huge. A 6.5 Creedmoor 140 grain ELD-M at 2700 FPS will penetrate 15" minimum penetration and have better wound channel than a 168 AMAX .30 from a .308. I even put a SWFA scope on it so we can all still be friends. Hi team, recently replaced my 270 win with a 270 wsm as I've always wanted 1. Hornady Superformance 30-06 SPRG 180 GR SST 20 ROUNDS. I think from what I read that the GMX is more for thick skinned heavy boned animals where the bullet absolutely has to stay together. I ask, because the SST is available in 150-gr. Chicken Farmer by choice hunter of shade tree's and hiding spots by nature. Even velocity makes a difference. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. 4. both bullets have polymer tips (the ELD-X uses acetelin resin, supposedly more tolerant to heat and less prone to heat damage/deformation). I ask, because the SST is available in 150-gr. If you've got muzzle velocity, accurate BC's and sufficient accuracy out of your load, the only thing that it really comes down to is terminal performance, because the rest can be (relatively) predictably accounted for. Thanks to its tip, a sophisticated jacket and Hornadys Interlock design,the ELD-X is a reliably expanding projectile intended for all-range hunting. BTHP and Black Hills Gold 143-gr. If reloading is your game, ELD-X bullet offerings have expanded in 2017 to include: 270 Cal .277 145-gr 100/box $48.33; 7mm .284 162-gr 100/box $48.33 In the spring of 2016 I hunted black bear in Idaho’s Frank Church Wilderness, with my Steyr Scout rifle. Have a question for our Technical Service Representatives, ask it below. I ended up liking how they grouped so I ordered a custom turret for my vortex viper on my 300. Them and H4831 it will group moa or better as long as you let the light weight barrel cool. Swift Scirocco II, Sierra GameChanger 130-gr. How does the 140gr sst compare? I have found the SST… The Hornady ELD-X avoids this by having an aerodynamic casing that streamlines airflow and reduces drag, allowing it to travel where you intend it to land. No elk with the bullet. Thread starter dodgyknees; Start date Jul 16, 2018; dodgyknees Well-Known Member. At this writing, Superformance loads do not feature ELD-X bullets. Either way the bullets do there job to bring big game down. Just saying AMAX, SST, ELD-M, or ELD-X means nothing. Superperformance punta de polímero rojo en 7mm RM y he de confesar que me ha decepcionado. A 178 AMAX .30 cal from a 300 Win Mag underpenetrates at close range. The thick shank of the jacket and high InterLock ® ring keep the core and jacket together providing 50-60% weight retention. View Product Quick View Quick View. I was shooting 145g eldx at 2950fps and getting 1/2 … … I cannot say I like eld-x better than say accubond or sst or even my hunter elites with all my rifles but the 6.5cm shoots eld-x and has dropped the deer. Hornady's very successful SST (SST stands for "Super Shock Tip") is essentially a secant ogive Interlock bullet with a red polymer tip. The ELD-X mushrooms and expands perfectly upon impact. I'm probably going to use Retumbo and see if I can launch them at 3200 fps. Both way outperform the SST by a mile. For example, comparing ELD-X to SST: 1. both bullets are copper jacket surrounding a lead core. This review covers the 6.5MM 143-grain ELD-X, and focuses on how it performs … 270WSM 130g sst vs the 145 eldx ? and has a slightly higher G1 BC (0.525) vs… Ballistic Coefficient (G7) .315. I shot them in my 270 Win. I haven't checked that yet, nor have I checked for concentricity on the loaded rounds. A 178-grain Hornady ELD-X put this bull elk down at more than 300 yards. I am starting to handload for a .270 Wby Mag using 140-150 gr. 2. Some thoughts on the comparison between the load I'm using (140 Partition, 47.5 gr Big Game, 2870 fps) and the load I'm considering in my new 7mm-08 (150 ELDX, 41 gr Varget, 2725 fps). I suppose if neither of these will work, I'll just save the brass. Impact. No problems. 4. both bullets have polymer tips (the ELD-X uses acetelin resin, supposedly more tolerant to heat and less prone to heat damage/deformation). This year I ordered a couple of boxes of the eldx's for my 300 win mag in 200 grain and some 150's for my 7mm08. 6.5mm .264 Diameter 143 Grain ELD-X 100 Count by Hornady Bullets and Ammunition Product Overview now offers the 6.5mm .264 Diameter 143 Grain ELD X in … I do try to keep muzzle velocities at 2600+ fps on my .308's, that seems to keep them flying straight and true. i hit her high shoulder and right through a vertebra. 270WSM 130g sst vs the 145 eldx ? I was shooting 145g eldx at 2950fps and getting 1/2 moa sized groups, more than acceptable imo. $0.8965 Per Round. The nice part about being a pessimist is that you are constantly being either proven right or pleasantly surprised. I'll stay with nosler. Only the SST has a cannelure. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. looking at components the ELD-X and ELD-M are looking scarce or expensive. ELD-X. I used to use it for my 300WM before changing to H1000 which is much more stable. A 178-grain Hornady ELD-X put this bull elk down at more than 300 yards. The rounds that did the job were R1M1 ball. Nosler ballistic tips for blood and partitions for penetration. Most hunters report favorable performances at around 1000 yards or more when paired with a quality rifle. ELD ® Match (Extremely Low Drag Match) bullets are technologically advanced, enhanced accuracy target bullets featuring Heat Shield ® tips with the PERFECT MEPLAT (tip point) combined with numerous design features that deliver the highest-in-class ballistic coefficients, superior accuracy and extreme consistency from bullet to bullet, lot to lot. Good luck on your upcoming trip. However the 270 wsm came with load data for 130g sst's just wanted to share water jug testing of the hornady Eldx and Barnes Lrx bullets It made a nice exit and the rib cage was damaged pretty bad. The Hornady … I shoot a Sako Finnlight 85 in 7mm mag and it loves the Hornady SST 154gr at the range, but I haven't been impressed with the results in the field. In my research, it appears there’s a healthy debate between the ELD-X the Trophy Bonded Tip. I use sst on deer and they seem to work better on deer than partions! Copyright © 1996-2020 AR15.COM LLC. $1.2552 Per Round. Flat shooting and deadly accurate, it's … Because the ELD-X will expand at velocities as low as 1,600 fps, it is a great bullet for short-barrel rifles. What's the difference between the Hornady SST and ELD-X (factory loads)? Because the ELD-X will expand at velocities as low as 1,600 fps, it is a great bullet for short-barrel rifles. Sectional Density .293. I drank the Koolaid and bought a 6.5 creedmoor tikka t3x. With high velocity 0-400 yard impact, the bullet continually expands throughout its penetration path. No elk with the bullet. RL-22 and RL-25 have developed reputations for temperature sensitivity. SST, Norma Professional Hunter 130-gr. CaptainMal. But in general, I have found SST is usually slightly bested in accuracy by ELD-X, which is bested by ELD-M... generally. Considering the cost of ammo - a smart bunny would buy a chronograph - this removes the human factor. Hornady's Interbond vs. SST vs. Interlock. View Product Quick View Quick View. I can only speak of the SST bullets. Don't shoot a ballistic tip. Hi team, recently replaced my 270 win with a 270 wsm as I've always wanted 1. I have used the 160gr accubond out of a 7mag and it does out perform the ballistic tip. ELD-X. If as been suggested the ELD-X will ultimately replaced A-Max the cost of reloaded ammunition will have increased considerably. 6.5mm .264 Diameter 143 Grain ELD-X 100 Count by Hornady Bullets and Ammunition Product Overview now offers the 6.5mm .264 Diameter 143 Grain ELD X in a convenient 100 count box. It busted up but so did my sst… Anybody have any firsthand experience using Hornady's hunting bullets, in terms of group size out to 400 yards and killing performance? Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. That's a 30:06 caliber too. 270WBY is wicked fast. Back to the SST's I get good accuracy from them on all of my loads. My Hornady ELD hand loads shoot around .7 MOA out of my 300 WM. Too many questionable reports from friends, contacts and the internet. [Last Edit: 7/30/2017 11:03:15 AM EST by CanNevrHaveEnuffGuns], [Last Edit: 8/11/2017 3:45:39 PM EST by pointman66], [Last Edit: 8/11/2017 3:10:36 PM EST by DevL], [Last Edit: 8/14/2017 6:23:42 PM EST by Rob01], [Last Edit: 8/14/2017 1:38:32 PM EST by sparkyD], https://www.hornady.com/support/ballistic-coefficient. Bullet wise, I've found Hornady 120gr GMX, 120/123/130/140 ELD Match, 140gr SP Interlock, 143gr ELD-X, 140gr SST… exit wound must have been the base of the bullet. Accubond may have held together a touch better but … I have no complaints. Sst= 130gr,cannelure,bright red polymer tip and different profile compared to the eldx=145gr,non cannelure,dark red tip and … and has a slightly higher G1 BC (0.525) vs. the 145-gr. I’ve seen the ELD-X in action on big game to 700 yards. What's the difference between the Hornady SST and ELD-X (factory loads)? Hornady’s ELD-X bullet features a long, javelin-like body, a boattail base and the new Heat Shield Tip to improve long-range performance. All Rights Reserved. I do like the ELD-X though. The bullet itself looks totally different and by the info on the projectile box the sst=.460bc and eldx=.538bc.These are 270win data by the way. Jul 16, 2018 #1 For the nth time I got into a debate about the differences between the aforementioned Hornady bullets recently, with shooters at the local NZDA. -Andres Duany. $0.6877 Per Round. It will shoot the 140gr berger hunting bullet really well with the 140gr ballistic tip right on it's heals. La pones al lado de una Geco Express y parece el mismo cartucho, pera al menos en mi rifle Reming.. Is the standard powder being used H4350? Barnes: Tipped TSX; Federal: Soft Point, Fusion; Hornady: SST… As is typical of Hornady, the bullet weights are odd numbers in the … AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Sst= 130gr,cannelure,bright red polymer tip and different profile compared to the eldx=145gr,non cannelure,dark red tip and more sleek profile. Devastating conventional range performance. It busted up but so did my sst. My  .270 doesn't like solid copper bullets at all. SST�s are one of the worst hunting bullets IMO. I’m really excited to start sighting in my new 300 win mag Christiensen Mesa this week but have been wondering what factory rounds to go with. I have no complaints. I am not sure if the jackets are the same but the ELD-x has a �special� heat shielded tip to keep the bullet from deforming for long range shots. Quite a few deer, elk, and bear tags were punched decent exit wound but she fell in her tracks because that entire vertebra exploded. I shot a doe the next week at 60 yards through the lungs with the 7mm08 and it ran about 50 yards and had a bigger exit hole than what the 300 made. Thus far I have heard of ELD-X, which sounds ideal for hunting, but per Hornady's website, it's not in any factory ammo. TNBilly, Dec 29, 2013 … My cousin just shot a nice 8 with his 7 mag with 139 grain sst superformance. SST's here retail for £40ish a box whereas the ELD-X are £65. Used both in 243 and 308. I’d … My own experience shooting a bear with an AMAX at short range ended poorly and follow up shots were required. Isn't the 145 Eld-x rated at a G1 of 0.536 to 0.512 depending on speed? They are my new favorite bullet. The perfect tip!. As a play off the SST vs interlock thread, thoughts on these two? I'm thinking about trying the 162gr ELD-X and Barnes 160gr TSX. Hi team, recently replaced my 270 win with a 270 wsm as I've always wanted 1. EldX does not. On the other hand partions work better on elk than sst! Depends on what you are hunting. I had the 123gr SST not pass through an 8pt buck but the 150gr SST out of my  .308 zipped right through the 8pt buck the next year. Hornady Reloading Bullets ELD-X 7mm .284 175 Grain ELD-X [2841] View Options Hornady Reloading Bullets Etremely Low Drag 30 Caliber .308 195 Grain ELD-Match [30951] My gun doesn't like Winchester ammo. If as been suggested the ELD-X will ultimately replaced A-Max the cost of reloaded ammunition will have increased considerably. I don't care for Hornady bullets for big game hunting. The .223 73 grain ELD-M underpenetrates. The Hornady ® SST ® (Super Shock Tip) is designed to deliver tremendous shock on impact while expanding quickly and reliably, particularly at higher velocities. So the ELD-X which is being marketed as a long range hunting bullet looks better on paper and you would be able to use it for both hunting and target shooting. If you hit them in the heart-lung's, any of these bullets will kill a Dall Sheep just fine. Each bullet in each caliber and weight has its own unique properties. The Swift Scirocco would be my choice if it shot well in my rifle. Mule Deer, John I didn't address your comment on neck thickness in my previous post. You're going after Dall Sheep = tough suckers with dense hair. bullets over RL-22 powder. SST… The SST's are less expensive and easier to obtain. i mean 100% mush. Shoot something like a partition, accubond, or ttsx. As far as the ELD vs SST I just use them in my grendel and neither pass through hogs over 150 pounds. I'm thinking about trying the 162gr ELD-X and Barnes 160gr TSX. 4. both bullets have polymer tips (the ELD-X uses acetelin resin, supposedly more tolerant to heat and … No complaints with the sst … Hands down ELDX and SST were best for this 3) Consistency when reloading. I had a sst 139 grain bullet blow up on a doe with a shoulder shot with a 7mm08 superformance at 70 yards. Sep 22, 2014 #9 Like them both but … ELD-X bullets are designed with a thin-jacketed frontal area that expands at low velocity and a gradually thicker jacket and InterLock ring that keep the shank together to penetrate at high-velocity impacts. The SST, like the Sierra GameKing boat tail, is a great deer-sheep-antelope bullet and will drop the Dall quickly and cleanly if you do your part. Plastic tipped, lead core bullets, such as the Nosler Ballistic Tip, Remington AccuTip, Swift Scirocco and Hornady SST have also proven very effective on Class 2 game. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Scirocco II, Remington High Performance 140-gr. I was shooting 145g eldx at 2950fps and getting 1/2 moa sized groups, … I have a couple of boxes of Winchester Silvertips I'd be willing to trade with anyone. I would go with the one that shoots best in my rifle, inside of 400 yards, the hi-tech temp sensitivity of the tip won't really matter at higher altitudes and cooler temperatures. Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Craiger12, Feb 12, 2011. I have some on order for my 25-06. Buenas He comprado por probar una caja de Hornady SST 154 gr. I am looking at the SST, ELD-X, and Interbond. I cannot say I like eld-x better than say accubond or sst or even my hunter elites with all my rifles but the 6.5cm shoots eld-x and has dropped the deer. Bullet wise, I've found Hornady 120gr GMX, 120/123/130/140 ELD Match, 140gr SP Interlock, 143gr ELD-X, 140gr SST, 140gr BTHP Match. Above: (from l.) Browning 120-gr. You don't want any part of me right now, I'm full of bitterness, Scotch, and impure thoughts!!!! I’m really excited to start sighting in my new 300 win mag Christiensen Mesa this week but have been wondering what factory rounds to go with. You can't even generalize by weight. … So for hunting and varminting, the ELD-X is clearly the one to use – and it seems to be just as accurate as the match version. It occurred to be that the difference in accuracy between the 110gn ELD X and the 117gn SST may have something to do with the SST being flat base and the ELD X being a boat tail. With 2 over 1,000. Sierra Tipped GameKing, Hornady Superformance 129-gr. If reloading is your game, ELD-X bullet offerings have expanded in 2017 to include: 270 Cal .277 145-gr 100/box $48.33; 7mm .284 162-gr 100/box $48.33 Hunted and killed deer with ttsx by ELD-M... generally those things left the best blood of. 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